but this country uses violence when every chooses and then it legitimizes the violence they are made in america on the auntie. oh and john are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture is it right the seniors and working people who rely on government services could get screwed over by republicans in the debt ceiling debate out of control military spending remains untouched that and more big picture of politics panel and each year students at our public schools are forced to take standardized tests for a growing number of school districts and teachers are questioning the value of these tests are standardized tests accurate measures of a student's intelligence or just a giant least of time and resources. you

need to know the vets america has a deal for you forget about to get a good job or having a career or something that's long term like maybe a manufacturing job or a job with a pension or good health care plan for never going to college or trade school because a wal-mart has got a deal for you you can work at wal-mart or even if you did all your shopping at wal-mart your paycheck still won't cover your cost of living so you'll qualify for medicaid and food stamps and stuff like that they say they're going to hire one hundred thousand vets over the next year is now wonderful the five years of sam walton's wal-mart fortune have more wealth than the bottom forty three percent of all americans and they're willing to let you add to their well ditto for walmart c.e.o. who makes around nine thousand dollars an hour he's very pleased to offer you a job for a little less than nine dollars an hour so you're thousand hours around half

a year full time to make as much as the c.e.o. makes in an hour aren't you lucky and wal-mart will probably get a healthy tax credit and will definitely get a tax deduction for hiring you. in a bloomberg they're going to get up to nine hundred sixty million dollars from the taxpayers. to wal-mart but don't expect to see any of that money tax breaks after all go to rich people like walmart c.e.o. and their major stockholders. just one of the p.m.'s but still you get a job right out as wal-mart know they can hire you because so many wal-mart employees are so poorly paid and treated that lots of associates are leaving their jobs every day so there's always room for it especially with that nice fat new tax break for wal-mart if they hire you whatever skills you learn in the military from supervising construction to i.t. to office work just set that stuff aside instead you going to be stocking shelves and running cash registers and creating people at the door and earning so little

money that you and your kids will still qualify for food stamps is not great you know and sam walton started wal-mart he was proud that pretty much everything in his store was made here in the good ole usa when congress changed our trade laws in the eighty's and ninety's to give companies tax breaks to move their factories overseas sammon his heirs took down the proud made in usa signs that used to decorate walmart stores instead scoured the planet for the cheapest stuff they could find and they found a lot of it cheap stuff lousy pay virtually no benefits not a chance of a union wal-mart has figured out how to squeeze billions from its workers they can then pass along to its stock holders but of course none of that is for you you're just a pita but a peon with a job right seriously the true tragedy here isn't that walmart is pain so poorly or they're getting a bunch of your tax dollars to give newly released vets a poor pain no real benefits job the church tragedy is that there are tens of

thousands of factories across the nation who offer you a much better job with much better pay and benefits. and that's because of our insane trade policies instead of papering over the damage the so-called free trade has done to america like literally the loss of over fifty thousand factories and tens of millions of good jobs just since the year two thousand our lawmakers should be focusing on bringing home our factories and the jobs which then we bring home our soldiers there would be real jobs with good wages and actual benefits waiting for them. that's my take was turned over to our big picture politics panel for tonight for their take joining me vince collin a senior online editor at the daily caller richard follower progressive strategist noches host of the richard foller show and marc harrold libertarian commentator attorney and author of the book observations of white noise an acid test for the first amendment walk and gentlemen to always be. so. we have

a serious problem with our economy and our vets and this is the best we can do is give wal-mart a tax break to offer people an eight dollars an hour job since i was a i was coming into this family going i wonder how anybody could attack wal-mart for hiring one hundred thousand veterans and you figured out this is your attack on them and i think that that's kind of unreasonable and i attack on the system but i think it's not all i think it's i think it's a good thing that they're doing this it's a free market solution and it's wal-mart's not every market solution it's a subsidy with our tax dollars they get by the license is all over the place and i don't disagree i think subsidies should have got a free market solution but you have a situation where the white house is all over this they love it michelle obama is raging statement about how wonderful it is reading statement raising sorry and at the same time you know look at wal-mart's not just hiring retail poison i don't know about you guys i've worked in retail for dinner where you work you don't make that much money in retail but they're also hiring they're also hiring although you have osco pays a lot more because they're unionized they're also hiring people that work in distribution centers you can actually advance very far in wal-mart and even if you

are just a peon as you mentioned in your opening i think that there is opportune. it is there i have i have a friend who got out of the military went to work for wal-mart he's a very smart guy he has already you know it's not just oh is it will to get into a great job richard isn't this an indication of a structural problem when when we say to our vets returning from war something very different than we said after world war two after world war two we said free college education will help you buy a house and by the way there's jobs waiting where a single person can raise a family put their kids through school and retire with a pension now we're saying here have a job at wal-mart oh i completely agree with you tom i think the problem that we have here is beyond you know just the fact that these jobs are being offered but the fact is there's such a low quality jobs a lot of these military men and taking pay cuts to go work at the wal-mart which is the problem that we have in our country when we send our men and women to war and put them in harm's way that we should come back and we should praise them for their sacrifice and provide them with true jobs and true benefits so they can raise a family as a result of war to one that would our own our men and women return home and sadly

we're not seeing that in this you know this you know i would say the deployment back home or beyond that what i think my hope is that for those one hundred thousand guys who go to wal-mart hope will take the camaraderie they learned of wal-mart to unionize that if you ask me. isn't isn't you know when when our soldiers when my dad came back from war to he came back to a union job in about a third of all americans had a union job which meant about two thirds of all americans had the equivalent of a union job a union job or its equivalent now that's down to seven percent the private workforce very much left is those in the speak to some real problems in our economy i think i think it's great that they're doing this it's a fine program it's a private program wal-mart want to do it i understand there's a subsidy i'm not going to criticize anybody for hiring our veterans i don't i think the military is an outstanding place to get experience it can lead to many things all of our veterans are not going to work at wal-mart but when you talk about the fact that we're outsourcing all the jobs and there's no good to free market you have to remember too that wal-mart also provides very low prices that

globalization that free trade has provided low prices and americans may. the choice to go there are going to be vices to speak to spend an extra ten twenty percent at wal-mart if i may tell you what it is fifty percent might make check you would have met your choice but wal-mart sales don't indicate that every american is willing to make it but the very end the very peons that you're talking about are the are and many of them in many cases people who can't afford more than what wal-mart has to offer so that's why wal-mart by virtue disability is going down lower brash and all ization well is ok tell the director who actually has to if make it make a shopping cart each week and wal-mart is the best option of this i hear i hear i hear you on that and i think that's a very valid argument at the same time you have to look at the you know the counterweight that wal-mart does when it goes into small towns or even medium sized towns they bring down the average wage of the entire town so a doctor's office would usually pay a receptionist maybe ten dollars not as well with wal-mart only paying you seven i could pay you eight so she's forced to shop at the walmart the more walmart that we have across the country who are forced to shop there because they bring down the

competition in the labor market as well as they bring down the price of a competition of pride along with this to put artificial barricades in place in order what we've seen is because the because of the because of the change in labor because of the change to the trade laws in this country the fact of so many free trade agreements out there walmart is unable to get dirt they really get dirt like basically dirt prices the dirt level when it comes to prices were other. or others grocers can't get those same prices when you own the means of production and you own the production you know it's the you know you own the market down the factory downstream you have a problem with competition when the motor obviously wields a very powerful hand because it's so along with the largest employer in the united states let's last forever or investors present which which i think is time for the sherman act but that's a whole other argument any of president obama's getting fed up with the republican intransigence over the debt limit in a press conference on monday president blasted republicans for threatening to blow up the debt limit pointing out that raising the debt limit does not authorize more spending but simply pays the bill for money congress has already spent he also

reiterated that he will not negotiate over the debt limit. and put spending cuts on the table. publicans in congress have two choices here they can act responsibly and pay america's bills. or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. meanwhile republicans have a new scheme hit the debt ceiling and then prioritize who gets paid as republican pat toomey said we should pass a bill out of the house saying there will be certain priorities attached to certain things namely payment of debt services and payment of our military so military gets paid and so too do foreign investors and banks but seniors and working people who

rely on government services don't really mark well i you know i think the one thing we can see here by the president coming in saying there's this ultimatum he's getting into the blame game early eighty's he's playing preemptive ball but one thing we can say is i think he has pretty much in the white house pretty much taken the things like the platinum coin the fourteenth amendment i think he has geared into the fact that this is going to come down to what congress does you know is there prioritization this idea this is a lot of fear mongering that the minute this happens we can't pay we can't satisfy any of our i actually have to just take three prioritization and there were i know it's exactly right you know you you go on long enough with more spending than revenues sooner or later this happens it's not a debt ceiling because it obviously doesn't keep anything in check the idea that you keep raising the ceiling is obviously not a ceiling at all so this is gotten completely out of control this is are all questions why are the republicans using what has always been ever since one thousand thirteen nine hundred forty when the same was put into place to try to prevent. wilson from going into world war one it has net nobody has ever played chicken with it like this until the year before last when the republicans did why

are they even talking about doing it again just because they just because congress is haven't historically had conversations about this is not an excuse not to have a conversation when i think it's not over station about this bins when one builds a racked up by congress congresswoman to tell me how the budgets created they go over your budget are you going to spend the money but oh sorry we don't want to pay for that are you saying that you and thomas for you to bought the bill of goods that the president presented yesterday which was look congress is the only one who's authorizing spectacle i have action a i have nothing or graham who. has been watching the president had no role in the congress not i'm the president again. well it has no it has a congress now has the but i didn't does not have constitutional authority to raise taxes or to spend money period and he all he can do is write like ex drunk and say he they know he does not i wonder if a congress spends a good right this is george w. bush he had two wars and he put them on a predator he did not survive a war that's very clear party he did not provide for pay for and who man should tax cut. but it is hastert and bill if you want to because there is only people who are

in particular the first two years of obama's presidency the democrats and they did not go on about that they'd never it was muddled up we're back with more of the big picture politics panel after this break. well. technology innovation all the developments around russia. the future of coverage. oh i'm mission free segregation free transport charges free arrangement free risk free studio time free. download free broadcast quality video for your media projects and free media don darty dot

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welcome back to the big picture politics panel joining me tonight vince columnist richard foller marc harrold let's get back to it just to just to wrap this this whole debt ceiling thing you want to make a point about yes i think that when you mentioned before about how republicans are trying to establish what the priorities would be if the debt ceiling yeah you said there's legislation that he's trying to present oh he set the priorities and if he does and the president has to follow that. plan is to pay the debt and then pay the military that's his senior citizens ok will you leave the base on the table or students who a program on the table you leave richard allow me to do or my family would not really have so so what's left is yesterday the president saying that the republicans would then therefore put veterans out of their paychecks people on welfare would lose their paychecks republicans are doing this to you he said republicans don't even care they're suspicious about feeding poor children i mean

all sorts of like crazy demonize it's not true the republicans typically don't oppose food stamps. admin they want to cut it i mean for the budget yes if we crossed the threshold the debt ceiling without a resolution to raise it it is the executives responsibility to make those priorities because no not if we are all on the president if there is no i made that decision i wasn't going to pass oh well i'm does that mean there as they're calling for it in the senate and then there will be a point that's not what they do it would be just the one that's the point here that the president to get across to the american people the points not what they do with what they're just upon to let me take away money from senior citizens let's take away air traffic controllers you can't lie to him for oh well i'm going to go on and on here the laundry list can go on and on forever that i'm making is that that's a false argument meaning that it's squarely in the court of the president to make decisions about if there's an act of congress which is the argument that well i'm going to do it lacking an act of congress it's up to the president and obviously he's going to have to call for some priorities if if congress does this bill you know tough talking a lot of money that he has really really fast and a lot of those payments are contractual i mean you're going to end up with with

your aid. sees organizations people contractors suing the government and collect an interest on these late i mean it's going to cost us a hell of a lot of my and it could divert our credit rating or do it all because of a problem sort of like what are you almost certainly with the credit down rating we saw from the last debt ceiling debate was not because we argued over that because that is the law of the asian my hunger the debt ceiling that's why we got it about s. and p. as having it was right after a massive write out in the us a a memo and they said the reason they did it was because of the dysfunctional politics e.g. the republican because they were making money in general are dead because we can't afford that now that's what they say they did not easy the republican party our debt was out of control we'd be paying ten percent interest right now we're paying one percent interest nobody in the world thinks there's a probably the safest bet we're going to do except republican president obama lame jude one is old one hundred seventy six memo the two santa clause memo that said the republicans should spend like drunken sailors when they're in office and then screw about the debt when democrats come into office mark wrap this thing up and

what one one of the one thing that i keep thinking about now i've always said that that's a failure of both parties it's a failure of governance that we have not had a budget in so long i think one thing we could do and maybe could agree across the aisle on this is this idea that we're not going to pay our bills or we need to pay our bills we need to up the debt ceiling to pay our bills i think we should not be able there should be a law that says you can't up the debt ceiling when there's no budget in effect the idea here is we're not the debt ceiling to pay what's in the budget whether you agree with that is going to various or like say you have a gun in your hand you have the suit shoot yourself in the foot with it now what i'm saying is this idea of continually upping the debt ceiling where there is no budget there's no formal budget just continuing resolution i think that's the cart before the horse i'd really like to see them say look if you're going to up the debt ceiling you're going to borrow more to pay a budget you've got to have a budget or suggesting a structural change to a problem that is essentially political the the solution is vote the bums out two years if you don't like what they're doing vote the bums i believe vote some people in that will be proactive and get us a budget i think the american people are as our guns today new york passed the

toughest gun control law the nation and the first new gun laws in. the massacre at sandy hook elementary school under the new provision any assault weapons with a military rifle feature will be banned every single assault weapon sale whether through private dealer or not will be subject to a background check internet sales of assault weapons will be banned altogether the legal limit for ammo clips will be reduced from ten to seven bullets for handguns plus provisions to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill who have made violent threats president obama is going to reveal his plans for a comprehensive gun control the federal level tomorrow and will likely endorse specific executive actions he will take without congress to prevent weapons of war from ending up in the hands of that arranged the president's options include restrictions on gun imports from overseas these are things you can legally do better sharing of mental health records between federal agencies tougher background checks reporting today is that the president will call for an assault weapons ban a ban on high capacity magazines and universal background checks richard how does this all look sound smell feel to you and i think it's the right word it's the

right move by the president the president to come out very strong and think we really need to control this country we cannot have another standard hope there's no reason for anybody to have an assault rifle in this country just no reason for it clearly you know the n.r.a. will continue to the n.r.a. and their colleagues on the hill will continue to do everything that is in their power to block it saying you know he's violating the constitution somehow some way but it's just not true whatsoever you still can have a hanging if you like whether i agree that or not you can still have a hangover there's no reason for somebody to have thirty one bullets and an assault rifle in america there's just no reason for more absolutely put you wrote a book about this we actually have limits on your right of free speech which is in the first member of the constitution a far more explicit right it's not a qualified right it's an explicit right in the first amendment whereas the second amendment is qualified by for the purposes of maintaining a well regulated militia and then the security of a free state and whether it's a state country which goes back to the whole thing that the the original purpose of

the second amendment was to keep the. they've what they call the slave patrol militias in the south legal i mean you know these states right now if i may say so where why how can anybody say this this is inappropriate when we've already established for a long long time that this principle of qualifying these rights ok real quickly there are some structural differences i think it is an individual right the first in the fourth amendment use the right of the people the second amendment uses the same if it's a state's right it really doesn't need to be in the bill of rights because the ninth and tenth amendment take care but i don't think it's tied as closely to militia as you're indicating but also you have to remember the second amendment doesn't create a right it doesn't create a substantive right it's a preservation of a right that already exists for people to be able to defend themselves to be able to own weapons also you have to remember the first amendment is a restriction on a particular branch of government defense is not listed in the so no it's not but there is i believe there's a natural right to own weapons to bear arms that is to be able to take over the market real quick let me say the first amendment written in terms of limits

congress congress shall make no law the second amendment is an affirmative right so there's a slightly structural difference i don't agree with almost any of below five i think some of these will pack could pass compelling government interest as a constitutional analysis i would say that some of these laws could pass constitutional muster this doing it as an executive order i think this is completely the wrong way to go about it the fact that this country is so fractured on this issue it's very split it needs to go to the legislature and i don't agree with almost any of these changes and i think it is going to it isn't it is you know it was like new york has got completely out of not a city in the state absolutely becoming a nanny state where they will take away any right that they can i really mean new york's out of control too many to and no more slurpee or because i think those things are indignance that guns are more serious since you look like you enjoying this conversation i state the canary i know my my thought on this is one that's i feel like a lot of these are solutions are in search of a particular problem that fits those solutions right so when we use the terms assault weapon it is a convenient i get once

a euphemism but it is it can. turn of phrase for opponents of guns just generally because when all is all the weapons of war all guns are effectively assault weapons we know that more handguns are used in murders in this country every year because than any had been and when you see this sort of all assault well it's harry great assault rifle that's the big difference that millikan in the military during the oil of the soul robots used by the military or do what they are going to give us military because because military automatic military right exactly you can't even have automatic weapons in this country you can't privately purchase automatic weapons which is a military class weapon so when you talk about the a r fifteen it is actually a scaled down version of a military weapon because it only fires at a semi-automatic rate which means one bullet is in the chamber it fires and then has to reload and is not a military weapon and to equate the two is dishonest i think when you talk about this you know even even miller i mean this the supreme court has been pretty clear that in their opinion as much as i hate you to show review in their opinion the

right to bear arms is a qualified right and can be regulated by congress and obviously when i'm watching is where they were and we've been drawing lines since the one nine hundred thirty s. when we outlawed machine guns so the question simply is where is the line drawn further to move and where and i think that public opinion is largely agreeing with general stanley mcchrystal who on my radio show yesterday said i've said you know if it's a battlefield weapon it should remain on the ballot i find it a little disingenuous for you to agree with the military general that citizens of this country should have a further restricted right to bear arms but i can find a whole lot of civilians who agree but i'm just saying to rely on mcchrystal especially in your case i mean just look i just thought of the famous i know but a lot of people have been and it's in such a way that it's really shows how are you suggesting that the second amendment is there so that someday we might take on mcchrystal sorry this second amendment i believe and mark i think voiced this in his own way saying there's a natural right i believe that there's totally reason to believe historically that it could come to a time wherever we face the chair and i think that's realistic and i don't think

that's offended by the way by the way. in no way do i follow this of you know it let me ask you this isn't saying i'm here because this isn't the same because i want to you're going to you're going to take on a black hawk helicopter now why don't you are going to have me worked out really really well david koresh i don't have any intention of ever saying this my lifetime or hopefully my father's life ever but can you know that history is replete with examples where that happens and where when and where they failed i mean if you if this is what i would say to be alex jones is out there who say we need these guns for violent revolution because someday this government maybe to a president already there don't lump me in with alex jones and i'm not i'm not absolute out but what i would say is that look at the difference between egypt and syria where you have two countries they share a language or religion a region you're taking so many variables out that other people say oh well it's because of this or that in egypt the people showed up and they said no and those soldiers came in with the guns and shot at the people and the people just stood there and said kill us we're going to stand here like martin luther king did and it

was a nonviolent the power of that nonviolence brought that government down a matter of weeks in syria when the government started shooting people one home got the guns came back and sort of shoot back and now we've got sixty thousand dead people i mean history is replete with examples of countries that tried violent revolution the french revolution is a great way to go guess what happened the kings came back as opposed to people you know nonviolently successfully throwing people out or changing the social order mark you know charlie daniels song i think it's one of the. charlie daniels song talks about you know i give my gun when you get all the guns from the criminals richard asked you know why would you need one of those weapons i can certainly tell you that this idea that you're in to pass a law lots of laws were broken in every gun shooting we can talk about criminals by nature here's what makes them criminals they don't follow laws so the idea that you got a criminal problem a suicidal homicidal criminal who won't follow the law so you going to pass more laws is going to work who needs it all but i think at this time you know this is all it was of somebody who knows how hard this is the

a part of the of the gun lobby when the. when the when the black panthers tried to get assault rifles they want to protect themselves they were the first of all we need to regulate against these so-called criminals but ray la pierre in the front you're all right you're way out here goes down the road now we need to put the only way to stop to stop to stop bad guys give more good guys got to get a gun of every school everywhere this is the hypocrisy of the n.r.a. there's the park receive the gun lobby it's only it's the only one building it's convenient for them to want to come so quiet it's like this look oh well you know we're going to put more guns in schools is all part of the problem in this country they continue to build on this argument as to why guns are a great idea when guns are a great thing when you when twenty young kids get riddled with shots it's still a good idea to have a gun that makes absolutely no sense and you sit on a bus and you said when you talk about the gun lobby i think it is disingenuous for anybody who participates in the so-called gun lobby to only support gun industry and not gun rights and that's not been our advice on that on that point i want to wrap it up vince richard mark thank you all for joining us.

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